[Foresight-devel] Re: Forums Update
Eric Lake
ericlake at gmail.com
Thu Feb 28 13:01:00 EST 2008
Since it looks like a forum launch is in our near future (w00t) I
thought I would share something that I came across. :)
http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20080226
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Paul Cutler
<pcutler at foresightlinux.org> wrote:
> Ok, ignore my last email. After talking to Stef offline, we're going
> to go with SMF.
>
> 1. It's open source and Jive isn't. This means it might be possible
> to implement SSO via LDAP at some point.
> 2. We have a SMF appliance already built running the rPath forums we can clone.
> 3. Stef has experience maintaining the appliance and administering an SMF forum.
> 4. It's not Tomcat
>
> Sorry for all the back and forth, I feel good we've made a decision.
>
> Paul
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Paul Cutler
>
>
> <pcutler at foresightlinux.org> wrote:
> > Stef, thanks for your thoughts.
> >
> > I'm still open to Jive, and appreciate your feedback. We all work on
> > open source because we love to, and one of the challenges is finding a
> > volunteer to build an appliance with Tomcat to run Jive, and I know I
> > don't have the knowledge to do it. I don't want to just sign up
> > someone to build and maintain it without their buy-in.
> >
> > Let's do one more look at how hard it is to build and maintain a
> > Tomcat appliance and make a decision in a few days. It's been this
> > long, and Stef, pscott and I all give a slight edge to Jive, so the
> > due diligence is a good thing.
> >
> > I'm not concerned with having a new forum up the same day as the new
> > website, it can be a fast follower by a couple of weeks.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Stephanie Watson
> > <stef at foresightlinux.org> wrote:
> > > Despite my enthusiasm for SMF, I was sincerely hoping to go with Jive for
> > > Foresight for many of the reasons we have already discussed. However, since
> > > we're going with SMF, I know I can work more on the development and
> > > customization end, too. Since a lot of the styling work (leveraging both
> > > CSS and PHP) for the rPath Forum is still fresh on my mind, I'll be glad to
> > > work on the theme for SMF, borrowing the styling from the rest of the new
> > > website.
> > >
> > > Also, I have my GeSHi code highlighting patch that should be a helpful
> > > addition. It is offered as an SMF-interface-managed mod, but in the
> > > appliance model, it worked better as a patch for me because of file
> > > ownerships. I shadowed "smf" for the rPath Forum to add the patch, and I
> > > would need to shadow it for Foresight to do the same thing so that I don't
> > > break my redistribution agreement with Simple Machines LLC under their
> > > license (I need to keep my original "smf" package representing the software
> > > exactly as it is provided from their site). There may be other features we
> > > could add, too, if anyone has ideas; many developers have shared mods and
> > > such at simplemachines.org.
> > >
> > > Are we launching the forum simultaneous with the rest of the website, or can
> > > I have this weekend to work on it?
> > >
> > > -Stef
> > >
> > > On 2/28/08, Paul Cutler <pcutler at foresightlinux.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > After talking to gxti briefly last night, we'll go with SMF. It will
> > > > be much easier to deploy the SMF appliance instead of a Tomcat based
> > > > appliance.
> > > >
> > > > Who's up for helping creating a SMF theme?!
> > > > (http://docs.simplemachines.org/index.php?board=34.0;sort=subject)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Paul Scott-Wilson
> > > > <pscott at foresightlinux.org> wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 08:45:39AM -0600, Paul Cutler wrote:
> > > > > | Please let me know your feedback. I'll be fine with either,
> > > > > | but I think Jive gets a slight edge. I'd like to try and have
> > > > > | a recommendation by end of day tomorrow, and then discuss
> > > > > | in the Focus meeting Friday. If you would rather keep your
> > > > > | feedback private rather than the list, just shoot me an email
> > > > > | directly.
> > > > > From the brief time I spent playing with both, Jive gave me less grief
> > > > > and a better gut feeling. In particular I like the admin interface, the
> > > > > feeds, polls, questions and tagging. On the down side it lacks some
> > > > > "normal" forum features like sticky threads, splitting threads and
> > > > > sorting is always by last modified. There are also little things that
> > > > > bug me. To view multiple tags at once you need to change the URL by
> > > > hand
> > > > > and searches don't contain matching tags at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > While playing with Jive I macgyvered a way to run it under a different
> > > > > app-server and a theme so getting it running and themed shouldn't be a
> > > > > problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > Despite my gut preferring Jive I'd be fine with using either too.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Paul Scott-Wilson (pscott)
> > > > > http://sentenc.es
> > > > >
> > > >
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Thanks,
Eric Lake
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