[Foresight-devel] Re: Forums Update

[Paul Cutler]

Ok, ignore my last email.  After talking to Stef offline, we're going
to go with SMF.

1. It's open source and Jive isn't.  This means it might be possible
to implement SSO via LDAP at some point.
2. We have a SMF appliance already built running the rPath forums we can clone.
3. Stef has experience maintaining the appliance and administering an SMF forum.
4. It's not Tomcat

Sorry for all the back and forth, I feel good we've made a decision.

Paul

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Paul Cutler
<pcutler at foresightlinux.org> wrote:
> Stef, thanks for your thoughts.
>
>  I'm still open to Jive, and appreciate your feedback.  We all work on
>  open source because we love to, and one of the challenges is finding a
>  volunteer to build an appliance with Tomcat to run Jive, and I know I
>  don't have the knowledge to do it.  I don't want to just sign up
>  someone to build and maintain it without their buy-in.
>
>  Let's do one more look at how hard it is to build and maintain a
>  Tomcat appliance and make a decision in a few days.  It's been this
>  long, and Stef, pscott and I all give a slight edge to Jive, so the
>  due diligence is a good thing.
>
>  I'm not concerned with having a new forum up the same day as the new
>  website, it can be a fast follower by a couple of weeks.
>
>  Paul
>
>
>
>  On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Stephanie Watson
>  <stef at foresightlinux.org> wrote:
>  > Despite my enthusiasm for SMF, I was sincerely hoping to go with Jive for
>  >  Foresight for many of the reasons we have already discussed.  However, since
>  >  we're going with SMF, I know I can work more on the development and
>  >  customization end, too.  Since a lot of the styling work (leveraging both
>  >  CSS and PHP) for the rPath Forum is still fresh on my mind, I'll be glad to
>  >  work on the theme for SMF, borrowing the styling from the rest of the new
>  >  website.
>  >
>  >  Also, I have my GeSHi code highlighting patch that should be a helpful
>  >  addition.  It is offered as an SMF-interface-managed mod, but in the
>  >  appliance model, it worked better as a patch for me because of file
>  >  ownerships.  I shadowed "smf" for the rPath Forum to add the patch, and I
>  >  would need to shadow it for Foresight to do the same thing so that I don't
>  >  break my redistribution agreement with Simple Machines LLC under their
>  >  license (I need to keep my original "smf" package representing the software
>  >  exactly as it is provided from their site).  There may be other features we
>  >  could add, too, if anyone has ideas; many developers have shared mods and
>  >  such at simplemachines.org.
>  >
>  >  Are we launching the forum simultaneous with the rest of the website, or can
>  >  I have this weekend to work on it?
>  >
>  >  -Stef
>  >
>  >  On 2/28/08, Paul Cutler <pcutler at foresightlinux.org> wrote:
>  >  >
>  >
>  >
>  > > After talking to gxti briefly last night, we'll go with SMF.  It will
>  >  > be much easier to deploy the SMF appliance instead of a Tomcat based
>  >  > appliance.
>  >  >
>  >  > Who's up for helping creating a SMF theme?!
>  >  > (http://docs.simplemachines.org/index.php?board=34.0;sort=subject)
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > Paul
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Paul Scott-Wilson
>  >  > <pscott at foresightlinux.org> wrote:
>  >  > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 08:45:39AM -0600, Paul Cutler wrote:
>  >  > >  | Please let me know your feedback. I'll be fine with either,
>  >  > >  | but I think Jive gets a slight edge. I'd like to try and have
>  >  > >  | a recommendation by end of day tomorrow, and then discuss
>  >  > >  | in the Focus meeting Friday. If you would rather keep your
>  >  > >  | feedback private rather than the list, just shoot me an email
>  >  > >  | directly.
>  >  > >  From the brief time I spent playing with both, Jive gave me less grief
>  >  > >  and a better gut feeling. In particular I like the admin interface, the
>  >  > >  feeds, polls, questions and tagging. On the down side it lacks some
>  >  > >  "normal" forum features like sticky threads, splitting threads and
>  >  > >  sorting is always by last modified. There are also little things that
>  >  > >  bug me. To view multiple tags at once you need to change the URL by
>  >  > hand
>  >  > >  and searches don't contain matching tags at all.
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  While playing with Jive I macgyvered a way to run it under a different
>  >  > >  app-server and a theme so getting it running and themed shouldn't be a
>  >  > >  problem.
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  Despite my gut preferring Jive I'd be fine with using either too.
>  >  > >  --
>  >  > >  Paul Scott-Wilson (pscott)
>  >  > >  http://sentenc.es
>  >  > >
>  >  >
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